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I invite IP 95.53.160.189 to discuss their preferred content here, after consulting Talk:Fascism/FAQ. Generalrelative (talk) 18:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do note that my edits were about what fascists said about their ideology, not about where it should be placed on a political spectrum. Using one quote from Mussolini to push a certain narrative while ignoring those quotes that contradict this narrative is censorship, not "upholding of consensus". 95.53.160.189 (talk) 19:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't support digging through primary documents to find what Mussolini has said about fascism. Honestly, inclusion of his comment on fascism being far-right is on shaky ground, citing one historian's self-published lectures. I don't doubt that Mussolini said any of it, but we should lean on reputably published secondary sources for picking out and analyzing chunks of primary material. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ideas for rewriting part of this article

This article is trying to show the historical ideological development of Italian fascism, Nazism, and other fascist ideologies in one section, including talk of the Nazis emulating Sparta as being the initial statement on the ancient historical influences on fascism. You could end up getting dozens of individual histories on various fascist parties and their local nation's history's influence on them. The history section of this article should initially focus on what led to the development of Italian fascism and its seizure of power in Italy and then talk about the fascist movements that emerged emulating Italian fascism such as the Nazis.

Topics on Nazi ideological influences that are not universal with fascism could be addressed in the Nazism article. BlueberryA96 (talk) 08:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]